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Brett D. Robinson
Brett D. Robinson, CHMM, is Vice President and
General Manager of REMTECH Group.
Mr. Robinson has worked in the waste management field for over
eighteen years in compliance related capacities ranging from permit administration to
facility auditing to compliance consulting to litigation support. His work at REMTECH
resulted in the receipt of two PART B Final Permits, a Residual Waste Processing Facility
permit, a TSCA PCB Commercial Storer permit, a NPDES permit, POTW discharge permits, air
permits, and multiple transportation permits. Over the years Mr. Robinson has trained
hundreds of truck drivers, facility operators, and plant managers in practical regulatory
compliance and safety. Further, he has been approved under the New Jersey A.901 Disclosure
program for screening waste hauling applicants following FBI fingerprinting, investigation
by the NJ State Police, and interviews by state enforcement officers. He secured multiple
A.901 approvals for REMTECH operations in New Jersey.
Mr. Robinson is extremely knowledgeable in waste classification with
particular emphasis on US DOT rules and hazardous waste coding. In addition to creating a
number of training manuals, policy/position papers, computerized compliance systems, and a
monthly regulations review, Mr. Robinson is author of The Quick Classification System
(© 1987, Compliance Systems, Inc.), a 1,000-page manual for building waste
classifications which meet EPA RCRA, TSCA, and CERCLA regs, US DOT Haz Mat regs, and most
states' rules. The manual also tied in packaging, placarding/ labeling, and paperwork
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"Trick or Treat?"
HHW Days
From The Contractors Point of View |
Presented at the
October 29, 1998 ANJHHWC Meeting by
Brett D. Robinson, CHMM
Vice President and General Manager of REMTECH Group.
bdrobinson@earthlink.net
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Its very fitting, I think, that we should
be getting together at this time of season--some of us in costume, it appears--to discuss
HHW Days because every collection carries with it some "Tricks" and some
"Treats."
You open that homeowners trunk and you may get just about
anything--and youd better come dressed for the occasion, just in case your safety
might be at stake!
Weve
seen
- Cars full of kids and pets carrying open containers of
flammable liquids.
- One homeowner I remember even filled both sides of the back seat,
leaving his infant strapped into its car seat "for safety."
Weve seen
- Empty whipped cream aerosol cans treated as if they were the cause of
rain forest destruction while deadly poisons werent given a second glance.
- Two weekends ago two older gentlemen delivered a carload of
fertilizers and pesticides including a trash can full of cyanide. They wanted us to dump
out the 60 pounds of cyanide so they could have their trash can back. They didnt get
it back.
Weve seen
- A lady from an urban area in North Jersey deliver a box full of old
knives. When we questioned her about it. She said she felt they were too dangerous to put
out in the trash, fearing that neighborhood kids might find them and prove how hazardous
they could be.
Weve seen
- Tear gas grenades, explosive flares, 40-year-old poison gases from
some exterminators ancient bag of tricks, leaking open bags of asbestos, explosive
flash powder from a turn-of-the-century photography studio, 50 pound bags of DDT, unstable
compounds from the local high school chemistry lab, broken kerosene heaters, prehistoric
veterinary medicines, and just about every kind of home product imaginable, hazardous or
not.
As Im sure everyone here can confirm, there are actually
two "Trick or Treat" seasons when it comes to HHWs: every spring and every
fall.
So what would you like to discuss today?
Rather than talk at you, Id rather talk with you about
how to make the HHW events we all face more predictable, more safe, and more
responsive to the needs of the homeowners.
How about
predictability?
Just like the investment advertising warnings that
"past performance is no guarantee of future gains," every waste collection seems
to be a crap shoot these days. Our Spring collection days were phenomenal. Our Fall days
have been very disappointing overall.
Im sure wed all like to get a better handle on just how
long these things should run, how much waste is coming in, and how much this could cost
the local taxpayers.
Weve seen the following hits and misses, or rather,
"Treats" and "Tricks"
TREAT: Pre-register as many people as possible and
give the homeowner a time slot to deliver his waste.
Though far from guaranteed, this approach helps the
contractor to better plan his supplies and manpower. It also reduces lines.
TRICK: Dont limit drop-offs to only those who have pre-registered.
Once the contractor is there, he wants to get the most from his
efforts. And, of course, turning away unregistered cars upsets the homeowners.
TREAT: Try to separate the small businesses from the homeowners.
Every HHW Day we do in Orange County New York is a
two-day affair. Saturday is restricted to homeowners. But Friday the Small Quantity
Generators (SQGs) bring in their waste (mostly pre-registered for planning purposes and to
advise them of the charges). Each SQGs waste load is tallied up and the SQG receives
a bill from the county for the service. And even though they pay, the SQGs are happy to
get proper disposal services for much less than the could get on their own.
I believe that this approach recognizes the hardship that waste
disposal requirements place on smaller businesses and fosters a more honest response than
general open collection days. "Youre driving a painting contractor van. Are
you sure this waste paint isnt from your business?"
TRICK: Limiting homeowners to a certain gallonage or weight.
If youre trying to keep small businesses out,
try a more positive approach, like an SQG day. Homeowners really do have four car
batteries under the porch, bags of old pesticides in the shed (likely bought on sale just
before they were outlawed!), and 55 gallon drums in their garages.
After I told him not to pour his waste oil down the dry well in his
back yard, my late father-in-law decided to make it easy on himself and put it all in a
55-gallon drum, knowing full well he would never live to have to empty it! I filled every
gallon milk and detergent jug I could get my hands on so that I could empty the thing for
delivery to the local waste day.
TREAT: Locate the collection near the source of the
waste with good traffic access.
Our most successful days are those, such as in Sussex
County, located near the local landfill where everyone is going on Saturday anyway or near
a major highway, such as in Passaic County, where a drop off is convenient. Our worst day
occurred 20 minutes from the closest town in a state park.
TRICK: Dont plan the waste day in a vacuum. Check area event calendars
before setting the waste day.
We recently had a terrible turnout at a
mid-Pennsylvania due in no small part to the fact that the day of our event also happened
to be the day of a huge local air show and Ladies PGA golf tournament. Since it was
well known that many local roadways between our site and the largest nearby city became
impassable owing to the traffic associated with these events, Im sure that many
potential "customers" just stayed home.
How about promoting safety and environmental
protection?
TREAT: Caution homeowners that an HHW collection is
not a good choice for a family outing.
Even if there are no problems with their waste, what
about the general frenzy of activity and traffic associated with this work?
TRICK: Homeowners are not directed to stay in their cars unless needed to
identify something or open the trunk.
Thus, homeowners risk injury from traffic, workers with
cartloads of waste, and back strains.
I, the contractor, need to control the delivery of
wastes to my workers. Homeowners carrying their spilling containers of gasoline and
dripping pesticides over to the sorting tables compromise everyones safety.
TREAT: Caution homeowners to, if possible, carry the
wastes in the truck rather than on the floor or seats in the passenger section.
Many times wastes spill on the way to the event. This
can ruin upholstery and carpets. Worse, the fumes could impair the driver or create a fire
hazard if someone is smoking in the car.
TRICK: Homeowners are not told to extinguish cigarettes in the work area.
Again, if someone gets out of their car and walks to
a sorting table while smoking, were all at risk.
TREAT: Hold the collection in an open paved parking
lot away from storm sewers.
If its raining, you dont want
drippage--and there is bound to be some--getting off the site. I dont know why
gravel sites are chosen for some of these collections.
TRICK: Not holding the contractor to a basic level of personal protective
equipment.
Ive observed waste days--not that we have held,
of course--where workers unloaded cars and sorted wastes in shorts, short sleeves, and no
safety glasses. Requiring OSHA 40 hour training for contractor workers is a good approach
but the county rep, then, must enforce at least minimum standard of protection. If the
workers dont care about themselves, what makes you think they care about anyone
elses safety? By the same token, if the county reps want to wander about the work
area--which I dont think is really necessary--they need safety equipment, too.
How about
keeping costs in line?
Which is the best approach? Per car pricing? Per
pound pricing? Per container pricing? Per waste/container pricing? Something else?
Each approach has its pluses and minuses.
Per car pricing works well until a local business tries to pawn off
its waste--by the van load typically--as household waste. In such circumstances or when a
legitimate homeowner just has a huge amount of waste, usually compromises are worked out
"on the fly," counting a van as so many cars. Some clients require a running
total of money spent to make sure that funding isnt exceeded. If this is a concern,
per car tallies are the quickest way to stay on top this.
Per pound pricing, where every single container is weighed, takes a
lot of time. On the other hand, if the disposal truck is weighed empty and then weighed
loaded and the average container weights deducted, the per pound system is more manageable
for everyone.
Per container pricing is tricky. Prior to handling the collection
days ourselves, REMTECH received HHW materials from other contractors. We could always
tell those events where the contractor was paid by the container: Many drums must have
slipped by the coordinator because they were woefully under-filled.
Segregating chemicals into their proper US DOT shipping categories
and charging according to the waste/container combination is how its done everyday
for routine lab pack work at industrial sites and school chemistry labs. Its
probably the most fair way overall to calculate disposal costs but its also the least
predictable.
Bottom line
we can bid any way the event is to be held but the
simpler the method (such as net pounds or per car) the easier the process of invoicing is
and the easier the process of tracking costs that day may be.
Other Good Ideas
Here are some ideas for keeping costs--and headaches--in
line:
Hire a contractor who has their own facility to (1)
reduce "middleman" charges and (2) ensure a permit-enforceable paper trail to
confirm that proper disposal/recycling occurs.
If possible, observe the contractors work at another
waste day and/or audit the contractors facility to confirm that the low bidder is
actually the lowest qualified bidder.
Separate uncontaminated boxes/cardboard from other event
waste and send it to a recycler to boost the local recycling tonnage report and reduce
disposal costs.
Weve had some HHW Days where volunteers break
up all the boxes to ensure the best fit and to free us up to concentrate on moving HHW
wastes.
Alert local emergency response personnel about the event
ahead of time to allow them to prepare for contingencies, rather than hiring a haz
mat team to sit and watch the proceedings.
If the county would feel safer having some safety
oversight during the day, then arrange to have the local publicly-funded haz mat team
there. They could always use the exposure. However, paying another subcontractor to sit
and wait for a haz mat emergency when youve hired an experienced contractor to do
the work is unnecessary--not to mention the fact that it makes our hardworking guys
jealous of the other contractor who sits around eating donuts and collecting the same pay
for seemingly doing nothing. Did I mention that wed love to be your standby safety
team?
Seek grants and assistance from every conceivable source to
offset costs and effort.
Aside from state grants, funding can come from local businesses who
get some advertising as well as the opportunity to get rid of their SQG wastes at a
reduced rate compared to individual service. Some bid proposals weve participated in
require the contractor to place ads or prepare flyers. We get resumes all the time from
recent college graduates who lack waste management/environmental protection/safety
experience. Perhaps there is a local college who would love to have the county sponsor
internships to help set up and/or run the programs.
Allow unopened consumer goods to be "recycled" on site
to event participants.
This allows the truest form of recycling to occur. However, room for
traffic from homeowners stopping to "take a look" must be planned for. Also,
someone must manage this table to make sure that no spillage occurs.
We also invariably have several homeowners bring in something
non-chemical in nature (e.g., small appliances) that they would like to see used again.
These people should be directed to take such items to the local Goodwill or Purple Heart
collection centers.
Arrange with a local community service organization to collect
good latex paints for use in housing renewal programs or public area restorations.
Many events seek to exclude latex paints raising the ire of
homeowners who dont know what else to do with them.
Demand that hazardous waste manifests or other shipping papers
document all wastes removed and that original Certificates of Disposal tied to those
shipping papers document delivery to a licensed facility before paying the final
bill.
REMTECH was not paid for several loads of HHW wastes brought to it
by an outside contractor. After a considerable period of seeking payment we contacted the
counties directly. We discovered that the unscrupulous contractor had used photocopies of
the same check to us to prove to several counties that the disposal bill had been
paid. Each copy presented to the county had different manifest numbers typed in according
to the county it was trying to convince. The counties paid the fraudulent contractor and
refused to assist REMTECH. We are suing over the incident.
Educate the homeowner better about what is potentially dangerous
to avoid paying for obviously "safe" trash.
The example I gave at the start of my talk of people dropping off
empty whipped cream cans happens regularly. Weve gotten empty shampoo bottles,
dry/empty paint cans, asphalt roofing shingles, electrical devices such as house fans and
hair dryers, you name it. Id say weve seen everything but the kitchen
sink--but one of those came during a Hudson County waste day.
Its clear to me that ANJHHWC members are sincerely interested
in making HHW Days run without headaches, without safety problems, and with a great
turnout. So are we.
Thanks for the opportunity to work with you in this endeavor.
Name: Brett Robinson
Affliation: Author
EMail: bdrobinson@prodigy.net
Date: 10/29/00
Comments
Comments about this piece can now be forwarded to me at my new email address: bdrobinson@prodigy.net. Thanks.
Name: Trevor Carlson
Affliation: Keep Roswell Beautiful
EMail: tcarlson@ci.roswell.ga.us
Date: 12/7/99
Comments
We could use your assistance. We are trying to start a HHW event and would like some
additional information. Please contact me. Thanks.
Name: Larry Gindoff
Affliation: Morris County M.U.A.
EMail: lgindoff@mcmua.com
Date: 10/31/98
Comments
Brett's presentation and paper were quite informative and interesting. The article is
filled with many good ideas and things to think about to help assure a smooth HHW disposal
day. I appreciate his efforts. It's always good to talk to colleagues and contractors to
help make our programs that much more effective.
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